| Movie Star Interview |
| A CINEMAN SYNDICATE FEATURE |
AL PACINO: INSOMNIA INTERVIEW * By Prairie Miller * That larger-than-life screen giant Al Pacino was just Al, thank you, when he dropped by to chat about his latest movie, Insomnia. Pacino was decidedly candid, humble and just plain godfatherly, with a few surprises in store. A little late but not at all sleepy, the earthy, charismatic star talked about his own homemade remedies for insomnia, how he was definitely not into dancing with wolves while shooting Insomnia up in the Canadian and Alaskan wilderness, and his recent mix 'n match roles of cop and dad personas. AL PACINO: Sorry for being late. I had to do an interview first with somebody who had to catch a plane, so I apologize. *No problem. But it would have been much better if you said you slept late. You know, from insomnia! |
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| AP: Oh yeah,
yeah! I needed the rest!
*Hey, as long as you still know all your lines. Have you ever experienced your Insomnia character's kind of sleep deprivation? AP: Yeah, sure I have. But sometimes it was purposefully. *Purposefully? AP: Yeah you know, I was out for a few nights. And didn't want to go to sleep. But I think I can relate to the sleep deprivation thing. I mean, there were periods in my life where I found it difficult to either go to sleep or get up early. *What did you do about it? AP: I had to wander around in the night. So it's something I could identify with. *Winona Ryder said recently that you have two o'clock in the morning conversations. AP: I wish, is all I can say! The thing is, when you're very tired, at two in the morning you could call the coast. Although I don't. I don't know why, but there's something about the nighttime, and the trying to get back to sleep. And trying to do things that are not stimulating. They say when you have insomnia, that you should get up and walk around. Or start to read something. Especially if it's something innocuous, you read it and it helps you to fade out. But a phone call might be too stimulating. Hey listen, I'm recommending things to do, and I'm sleepless! I don't know, please. I am not equipped, I don't think, to say. Anyway, that's my experience. *The director of Insomnia, Chris Nolan, said he was glad you took the role, because you embody the iconic cop figure. Do you concur? AP: I think there are times when you feel that's a part that people seem to want to see me in, that kind of role. So you want to do that from time to time. But I mainly did Insomnia because of Chris Nolan, and his work. So his approach to making movies was the biggest reason I did the picture. And then I like the idea of a character that is in conflict. And a good-bad guy. I like the good-bad guys! *Your character Dormer is a genius for the intuitive when solving a crime. How do you rate your own intuitiveness as an actor? AP: That's very interesting. I knew when I did Serpico, that as soon as I met Frank Serpico, somehow I wanted to play him. It's almost like something an artist just has to paint. I didn't get him at all though. I wish I did, but I didn't. But that was a springing board for me. I had a desire. I thought there was something I could identify in him. Like in his eyes, I could tell. And there have been other people who I've met, and I just didn't respond in that way. And then I didn't do that movie. So it is an intuitive kind of a thing. I try to listen to that. You don't want to be too quick to judge though, that's a problem. But at the same time, it's a good thing to listen to. You know, I'm still here, as witness! I'm still around. *What was it like working with Robin Williams, as your Insomnia co-star? AP: Well you see, this is what I've been trying to do, be funny like Robin! He's my idol, I just love being around him. I like to see him personally after the picture, and we try to get together. Robin is a very bright, caring guy. You know, about the world, and everything around it. He's well-informed, and just fun to be around. Because he's also so sensitive. I can't say enough about him. And as far as funny goes, he's up there, he's amazing. So I appreciate his friendship. *How was it shooting up in Canada? AP: Of course I'd like to shoot where you could just come over to my house! Yeah, I'd like to shoot the picture there. But the location does serve the picture so much, so you have to weigh that when you're going to make a picture. And as far as Canada goes, it's beautiful up there. So it was swell. Although I was popping down on the weekends all the time to see the babes. But where I was, in upper Vancouver and Alaska, is probably some of the most beautiful sections. And we were up there with the bears, the grizzlies. I even watched an avalanche. They called me outside and said, there's an avalanche, it was just a few yards away. It was surreal. I thought, really? Like shouldn't I go back in my camper? And it had a kind of placid look about it. There were wolves too, which I'm not used to seeing, frankly. We were living on boats, because there were no hotels. And the woman living on the boat next to me had a wolf! It was a beautiful thing to behold. And wolves from all around would come at night, and coo at us. *Did you touch it? AP: Did I touch a wolf? I looked at it, we looked at each other, and uh, that was it. Anything on a leash, I think twice before I touch! *Out of all your roles, which did you feel closest to? AP: I was just going to say The George Washington Story. But I didn't do that, did I? I can't answer that, I'll have to think. I've done a lot of roles. The classic answer, the answer you hear all the time, is that some of them are closer than others. But I really don't know. It's comforting for me to look at it, as a painter looks at different objects they paint. And sometimes it's odd. Because the characters that you may think are the farthest from you, turn out to be some of the best work you've done. And the characters that you feel are closest to you, sometimes don't take the same step. So it's hard to know about that. Desire and a passion to do a role, doesn't mean that it's you. It's just a desire, and it's a complicated paradox. And I'm not really smart enough to really understand it. But I go with the glow, as they say. If I feel there's something in it, and that I maybe could get a performance out of it, I go for it. And sometimes I miss. But that's how I go by it. See, what I learned early in my life as an actor, is that you try different parts in order to see if any of them will work. *What about taking chances? AP: It's much easier on the stage. It gets tougher to do out there in the commercial world, if you know what I mean. You want to take chances, but you get burned for them. *Speaking of risky behavior, you have to jump through lots of hoops in Insomnia. How do you prepare for a physical role like that? AP: Well, you go into a hospital for a week before. You check in, and have people oil you and massage you, and tie you up and mummify you. Then you pray. Then somebody says action. And you still pray. That's it! That's all I know. But I couldn't believe it, as I was doing it. It's like when I had to run, those trees are not going by as fast as they used to when I was young! But you have to get in shape and prepare for scenes like that, as you get older. Like when I had to chase Bobby De Niro in Heat. We pulled out at about three or four in the morning, to go chasing. I did one take, and boom, there goes the hamstring. I said gee, I feel like the old Al. I am the old Al! And that was unfortunate, because I had to stop for about a week and a half. You know, you learn from these experiences. So when I was doing this stuff in Insomnia, I prepared. Because I'm not the kind of guy who when I'm off, works out and stuff. But I'm learning that I better start doing something! You know, whenever I get the urge to exercise, I lie down till it passes! Now that's Oscar Wilde. *You're often called a legend. Do you feel like a legend, or is that idea scary to you? AP: Well, what I usually do when they say that, is I say, this is a legend. [Al whips out a harmonica and plays a tune!] Now, that's all I can say to that! *What do you say when people tell you that you're a legend? AP: I have to say that, when someone says that, I say, well I guess. I've been around a while! I think that is all I can answer to that. I lasted, I'm here, I'm still standing. *When did you first realize you were famous? AP: When I was on a street corner once, and there was a really attractive redhead standing there next to me. And I turned and looked at her, just as a gesture of, hello. So I was on my way to cross the street, and she said, hi Michael. And I thought okay, I'm not Michael Corleone. But maybe I am also, you know what I mean? So I better go home and have a cup of tea! Who knows what this could lead to. Copyright 2002 by Prairie Miller VIA CINEMAN SYNDICATE
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